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Crypto's institutional demand is a supply chain problem

The guest argued that the lack of institutional demand for crypto is illusory - the real issue is a supply chain problem, specifically the absence of bank-side custody, which is a prerequisite for large buy-side funds.

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CONTESTED · 202 MENTIONS · 92 EPISODES · 27 SHOWS

14 JUL 2025 — 18 AUG 2026 · TODAY

119 SUPPORT · 9 CHALLENGE · 74 MENTIONED

14 JUL 2025 · FIRST HEARD
MACRO MUSINGS WITH DAVID BECKWORTH
- Stablecoins as a marginal treasury demand source
53 EPISODES BETWEEN · 112 MENTIONS · 32 NOT KEPT
1. 32 EPISODES NOT SHOWN
2. 5 MAR 2026
  FORWARD GUIDANCE · 2 MENTIONS
  - Structured finance ripe for blockchain disruption
  - Blockchains as the ultimate displacer of financial middlemen
3. 10 MAR 2026
  THE POMP PODCAST
  - Stablecoins' value is payments, not yield
4. 12 MAR 2026
  CAPITAL ALLOCATORS · 2 MENTIONS
  - US poised to lead in blockchain finance applications
  - Tokenization to democratize access to new company upside
5. 16 MAR 2026
  MACRO MUSINGS WITH DAVID BECKWORTH · 3 MENTIONS
  - Fed master account access solves run risk
  - Stablecoin growth is inevitable, horse out of barn
  - Stablecoins are a new entrant, incumbents resistant
6. 18 MAR 2026
  WHAT BITCOIN DID · 3 MENTIONS
  - Stablecoins as US governance tool offshore
  - Bitcoin's potential role as future collateral
  - Stablecoins as new Treasury demand channel
7. 20 MAR 2026
  BANKLESS
  - Tempo as Stripe's payments-first L1
8. 21 MAR 2026
  SMARTERMARKETS · 2 MENTIONS
  - Tokenization's institutional adoption accelerates
  - Traditional market infrastructure solid for DeFi integration
9. 23 MAR 2026
  ANIMAL SPIRITS · 5 MENTIONS
  - Bitcoin ETFs are a mature, permanent asset class
  - Crypto value shifts to utility and infrastructure
  - In-kind ETF creations democratize primary market access
  - Stablecoins as the bridge to traditional finance
  - Tokenization momentum building with institutional backing
10. 24 MAR 2026
  THE POMP PODCAST
  - Stablecoins as critical infrastructure for 24/7 settlements
11. 25 MAR 2026
  THE POMP PODCAST
  - Blockchain rails as a response to debanking, censorship
12. 30 MAR 2026
  BANKLESS
  - Crypto beyond Bitcoin for value creation
13. 30 MAR 2026
  MACRO MUSINGS WITH DAVID BECKWORTH
  - Dollar stablecoins threaten eurozone monetary sovereignty
14. 31 MAR 2026
  ON THE MARGIN · 5 MENTIONS
  - Open Money Stack: one API for global payments
  - Stablecoins solve global payroll for EORs
  - Blockchain's three core value propositions
  - AI agents will transact in crypto
  - Stablecoin cards as a major growth driver
15. 1 APR 2026
  FORWARD GUIDANCE · 3 MENTIONS
  - Skinny master accounts as a step for fintech innovation
  - Stablecoin inflows could lower the neutral rate
  - Tokenized deposits as a bank service evolution
16. 1 APR 2026
  THE JULIA LA ROCHE SHOW · 2 MENTIONS
  - Stablecoins and CBDCs reduce Fed's power
  - Stablecoins as a US geopolitical dollar-entrenching tool
17. 1 APR 2026
  THE POMP PODCAST
  - Corporate chains as a major 2024 theme
18. 6 APR 2026
  MACRO MUSINGS WITH DAVID BECKWORTH
  - Dollar stablecoins: pernicious and no additionality
19. 7 APR 2026
  ON THE MARGIN
  - Demo as the stablecoin onboarding ramp
20. 7 APR 2026
  BANKLESS · 5 MENTIONS
  - Tokenized securities as future broker-dealer offering
  - Tokenization as inevitable migration for equity markets
  - Tokenization unlocks massive equity market inefficiencies
  - Tokenization unlocks new issuer-investor utilities
  - Tokenized treasury market as a leading growth catalyst
21. 9 APR 2026
  ON THE MARGIN
  - Bridgeport as crypto's Plaid for institutions
22. 9 APR 2026 · CHALLENGES
  THE POMP PODCAST · 3 MENTIONS
  - Bitcoin's value is retail-driven, not institutional
  - Stablecoin yield faces political bank opposition
  - TradFi perps will fail due to broken clearing
23. 10 APR 2026
  REAL VISION DAILY BRIEFING
  - Financial system migrating to blockchain rails
24. 15 APR 2026
  WHAT BITCOIN DID · 2 MENTIONS
  - Bitcoin as the deglobalization settlement money
  - Bitcoin's long-term adoption via currency backing
25. 20 APR 2026
  ON THE MARGIN · 3 MENTIONS
  - Stablecoins as the new financial rail
  - Stablecoins' first wave: cross-border efficiency
  - Wallets as the critical crypto bottleneck
26. 23 APR 2026
  ON THE MARGIN · 2 MENTIONS
  - UR as blockchain-native account infrastructure
  - Blockchain rebuilds finance to reduce cost, unlock programmability
27. 22 JUL 2026 · 4W AGO
  REAL VISION DAILY BRIEFING
  - Clarity Act passage as short-term sell-the-news
28. 23 JUL 2026 · 4W AGO
  THE OPTIONS INSIDER RADIO NETWORK
  - Centralized swap clearing vs DeFi model
29. 23 JUL 2026 · 4W AGO
  UNCHAINED · 3 MENTIONS
  - DTCC canonical tokens threaten third-party equity wrappers
  - Japan legal reforms unlock institutional crypto growth
  - Japan leads pragmatic approach to asset tokenization
30. 23 JUL 2026 · 4W AGO
  BANKLESS · 4 MENTIONS
  - The bottleneck in real-world assets: demand
  - Compliant tokenization outcompetes synthetic equity derivatives
  - Tokenized funds lead equity in institutional adoption
  - Compliance simplifies for tokenized stock trading
31. 23 JUL 2026 · 4W AGO
  BLOOMBERG SURVEILLANCE
  - Tokenized market infrastructure for settlement efficiency
32. 25 JUL 2026 · 3W AGO · CHALLENGES
  THE JULIA LA ROCHE SHOW
  - Clarity Act passage unlikely, forcing stablecoins offshore
33. 25 JUL 2026 · 3W AGO
  THE POMP PODCAST
  - Global adoption of stablecoins and tokenization accelerating
34. 27 JUL 2026 · 3W AGO
  ANIMAL SPIRITS
  - Stablecoins drive institutional efficiency across banking rails
35. 27 JUL 2026 · 3W AGO
  BANKLESS
  - Institutional TradFi adoption via marginal crypto primitives
36. 29 JUL 2026 · 3W AGO
  BANKLESS
  - Stablecoin supply projected to reach $2T by 2030
37. 29 JUL 2026 · 3W AGO
  UNCHAINED
  - Crypto infrastructure shifts from consumer to institutional adoption
38. 31 JUL 2026 · 3W AGO
  UNCHAINED · 3 MENTIONS
  - Superstate's tokenized equity as a crypto experiment
  - Permission pools enable compliant tokenized assets
  - Regulatory clarity as a platform for token innovation
39. 1 AUG 2026 · 2W AGO
  A16Z PODCAST
  - Blockchains enable a peer-to-peer Finance 2.0 upgrade
40. 3 AUG 2026 · 2W AGO
  MACRO MUSINGS WITH DAVID BECKWORTH · 3 MENTIONS
  - Stablecoins as a new, risky dollar class
  - Stablecoins undermine dollar's sanctions advantage · CHALLENGES
  - CBDCs and tokenized deposits over stablecoins
41. 3 AUG 2026 · 2W AGO
  BANKLESS · 7 MENTIONS
  - Buy-and-burn model as a necessary signal
  - Infrastructure build-out enabling tokenization
  - Crypto's shift from FAT protocol to FAT app
  - On-chain capital efficiency for tokenized assets
  - Token as the financial shipping container
  - Cypherpunk dream alive but not loud
  - Stablecoins heading to trillions by 2030
42. 3 AUG 2026 · 2W AGO
  THE POMP PODCAST · 3 MENTIONS
  - Crypto's convergence with traditional finance
  - Killer use cases: putting assets to work
  - Blockchain as the future financial infrastructure
43. 4 AUG 2026 · 2W AGO
  UNCHAINED
  - DTCC's tokenized entitlement is a different, limited model
44. 5 AUG 2026 · 2W AGO
  BANKLESS · 5 MENTIONS
  - Higher-quality on-chain assets to smooth cycles
  - Consumer crypto as a contrarian investment area
  - Crypto cycle: lower volatility, themes building
  - Token value accrual shift to equity-like assets
  - Crypto's right product: better financial infrastructure
45. 5 AUG 2026 · 2W AGO
  WHAT BITCOIN DID · 2 MENTIONS
  - Crypto regulatory clarity's upside case
  - Bitcoin regulatory clarity's institutional impact
46. 5 AUG 2026 · 2W AGO
  THE POMP PODCAST
  - Cold Card hack pushes Bitcoin custody to institutions
47. 6 AUG 2026 · 2W AGO
  UNCHAINED
  - Litigation as path to crypto accountability
48. 9 AUG 2026 · 1W AGO
  UNCHAINED · 4 MENTIONS
  - DeFi vaults' risk must be understood, not eliminated
  - Vaults as on-chain financial product infrastructure
  - Regulatory attention on vaults is inevitable and good
  - Enterprise distribution is the right path for DeFi
49. 9 AUG 2026 · 1W AGO
  ON THE MARGIN · 3 MENTIONS
  - Sovereign digital infrastructure as a B2G crypto pivot
  - Stablecoins as future global P2P payment rail
  - National stablecoins for domestic financial digitization
50. 10 AUG 2026 · 1W AGO
  MACRO MUSINGS WITH DAVID BECKWORTH · 2 MENTIONS
  - Stablecoins redistribute, don't create, safe assets
  - Stablecoin demand could compress T-bill yields
51. 10 AUG 2026 · 1W AGO
  WHAT BITCOIN DID · 2 MENTIONS
  - Bitcoin loan securitization unlocks institutional capital
  - Tether Gold as a digital rails catalyst
52. 11 AUG 2026 · 1W AGO
  UNCHAINED
  - Spark as infrastructure for new stablecoin issuance
53. 11 AUG 2026 · 1W AGO
  THE POMP PODCAST
  - Bitcoin as a bet on the internet
54. 14 AUG 2026 · 4D AGO
  BANKLESS · 3 MENTIONS
  - EtherFi's neobank-plus as first non-gambling crypto app
  - EtherFi's vertical integration endgame
  - Crypto-to-crypto as the ultimate payments rail
15 AUG 2026 · 3D AGO
SMARTERMARKETS
- Government support critical for trust in new gold markets
16 AUG 2026 · 2D AGO
MONETARY MATTERS WITH JACK FARLEY
- Compute as a future tradable asset class
17 AUG 2026 · YESTERDAY
A16Z PODCAST · 2 MENTIONS
- Microtransactions enabled by agents and stablecoins
- Stablecoins as a superior global payments platform
17 AUG 2026 · YESTERDAY
BANKLESS · 2 MENTIONS
- Bitcoin needs strong crypto ecosystem
- Crypto's real use case: unstable economies
17 AUG 2026 · YESTERDAY
THE POMP PODCAST
- Blockchain as inevitable capital markets infrastructure
18 AUG 2026 · TODAY
THE OPTIONS INSIDER RADIO NETWORK · 2 MENTIONS
- Regulatory clarity as crypto's biggest catalyst
- Crypto's institutional demand is a supply chain problem · THIS IDEA

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