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High CAPE ratio signals weak future returns

The Deutsche Bank chart argued that historically high cyclically adjusted P/E ratios have consistently led to weak or negative 10-year real total returns for the S&P 500.

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CONTESTED · 51 MENTIONS · 41 EPISODES · 18 SHOWS
4 JUL 2025 — 13 AUG 2026 · 5D AGO
21 SUPPORT · 9 CHALLENGE · 2 REPEAT · 19 MENTIONED
  1. 4 JUL 2025 · FIRST HEARD
    THE MEB FABER SHOW
  2. 14 AUG 2025
    THE MEMO BY HOWARD MARKS
  3. 5 SEP 2025
    BARRON'S STREETWISE
    • High CAPE ratio signals weak future returns · THIS IDEA
  4. 32 EPISODES BETWEEN · 42 MENTIONS
    1. 9 SEP 2025
      THE LONG VIEW
    2. 19 SEP 2025 · CHALLENGES
      GOLDMAN SACHS EXCHANGES: THE MARKETS
    3. 7 OCT 2025
      THE LONG VIEW
    4. 10 OCT 2025
      THE MEB FABER SHOW
    5. 17 OCT 2025 · CHALLENGES
      GOLDMAN SACHS EXCHANGES: THE MARKETS
    6. 18 NOV 2025
      THE BUSINESS BREW
    7. 21 NOV 2025
      THE MEB FABER SHOW · 4 MENTIONS
    8. 22 DEC 2025
      CAPITAL ALLOCATORS
    9. 23 DEC 2025 · CHALLENGES
      THE LONG VIEW
    10. 24 DEC 2025
      MACROVOICES
    11. 1 JAN 2026
      THE RATIONAL REMINDER PODCAST · 3 MENTIONS
    12. 13 JAN 2026 · CHALLENGES
      GOLDMAN SACHS EXCHANGES
    13. 15 JAN 2026
      THE ALPHA EXCHANGE
    14. 27 JAN 2026
      GOLDMAN SACHS EXCHANGES · 2 MENTIONS
    15. 29 JAN 2026
      THE RATIONAL REMINDER PODCAST
    16. 30 JAN 2026
      BARRON'S STREETWISE
    17. 2 FEB 2026
      THE MEB FABER SHOW
    18. 3 FEB 2026
      THE MEB FABER SHOW · 2 MENTIONS
    19. 6 FEB 2026
      BARRON'S STREETWISE
    20. 9 FEB 2026
      THE MEB FABER SHOW
    21. 13 FEB 2026
      THE MEB FABER SHOW · 2 MENTIONS
    22. 17 FEB 2026 · CHALLENGES
      GOLDMAN SACHS EXCHANGES
    23. 25 FEB 2026
      THE COMPOUND AND FRIENDS
    24. 5 MAR 2026
      MONETARY MATTERS WITH JACK FARLEY
    25. 30 MAR 2026
      REAL VISION DAILY BRIEFING
    26. 3 APR 2026
      BARRON'S STREETWISE
    27. 9 APR 2026
      THE ACQUIRERS PODCAST
    28. 16 APR 2026
      THE ACQUIRERS PODCAST · 2 MENTIONS
    29. 19 APR 2026
      EXCESS RETURNS · 2 MENTIONS
    30. 22 APR 2026
      EXCESS RETURNS
    31. 23 JUL 2026 · 4W AGO
      EXCESS RETURNS
    32. 25 JUL 2026 · 3W AGO
      EXCESS RETURNS
  5. 6 AUG 2026 · 2W AGO
    THE RATIONAL REMINDER PODCAST
  6. 7 AUG 2026 · 2W AGO · CHALLENGES
    THE COMPOUND AND FRIENDS
  7. 8 AUG 2026 · 1W AGO
    EXCESS RETURNS
  8. 9 AUG 2026 · 1W AGO
    WE STUDY BILLIONAIRES - THE INVESTORS PODCAST NETWORK
  9. 11 AUG 2026 · 1W AGO
    THE JULIA LA ROCHE SHOW
  10. 13 AUG 2026 · 5D AGO
    THE RATIONAL REMINDER PODCAST
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